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A very long time absence

Discussion in 'Pub' started by 60ep, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. 60ep

    By:60epJul 5, 2018
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    So the finnish conscription is taking away another UoS member for a while again as I'm starting my military service next week, just like Garfield did in January. It will take from 6 to 12 months depending on which role I'll be assigned as.

    There are some holidays though, so I'll see if I can play during those. But obviously I'll have some time to at least check out the forum + discord and keep on posting memes in #randompics.

     
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  2. TeaCup

    By:TeaCupJul 5, 2018
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    you shall be missed mate
     
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  3. Dragon

    By:DragonJul 5, 2018
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    stay sharp ep, you got this!
    can't believe you got old enough for the army, haha i must be too old
     
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  4. OrlokDaEternal

    By:OrlokDaEternalJul 5, 2018
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    words can't bring meEE down

    you are beautiful

    no matter what they say

    Love you Ep don't die and blast a few commies for me xoxo
     
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  5. dbK

    By:dbKJul 5, 2018
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    May we meet again.
     
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  6. Hawk

    By:HawkJul 5, 2018
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    Don't get shot by accident.
     
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  7. CazDawg

    By:CazDawgJul 5, 2018
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    Bye bye, EP.

    Come back after you've rid the world of filth. :)
     
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  8. Draupne

    By:DraupneJul 5, 2018
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    Protect those beautiful lakes of yours ep, and make sure to secure the future of finnish summer cottages by lakes for another generation
     
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  9. Tehfebeb

    By:TehfebebJul 5, 2018
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    Training for the RaHoWa is an important part of becoming an adult
     
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  10. Mr.TRUTH

    By:Mr.TRUTHJul 5, 2018
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    Train to kill off THE INFIDELS WHICH WILL DEFILE YOUR MOTHERLAND .
    Or become useless as Garfield was and stay with us forever
    #UoSforever
    Gg
     
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  11. Johannhest

    By:JohannhestJul 5, 2018
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    Always take every chance to train fir RaHoWa Ep Always
     
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  12. Draupne

    By:DraupneJul 5, 2018
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  13. TheGreenBottle

    By:TheGreenBottleJul 6, 2018
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    dont die, have fun
     
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  14. Doomy

    By:DoomyJul 6, 2018
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    Have fun wasting up to a year of your life.
    Hope it makes you more ambitious.

    EDIT: it made me feel bad leaving such a message even tho 60ep knows what it's about. But I stand by it. Going into the military for a year and then looking to go to college/working life is a pointless exercise. You'll be actively be working against your long term interests.

    The only reason to go into the army is to remain in the army and pursue a military career and even there, if you're at least somewhat smart or somewhat ambitious, there are only a few branches that are worth going into. Like military engineering corps, military intelligence or if you also have the physique for it, special forces.

    If you're not going to be remaining in the army, that's effectively 1 year of your life spent in utter misery. You don't "train" your body, you just wear it out. You don't "get more disciplined" you just learn to endure more. You don't "pick up valuable life lessons" you just end up peeling potatoes for a year.

    The best outcome is to meet people who you form a bond of friendship with that have similar interests to you and that you figure out what you want in life, if you're aimless. Hence, why I said, I hope it makes you more ambitious. But guess what, most people who know what they want in life and have good, clear goals in mind will opt out of the military service and pursue those goals. And don't tell me it's not possible to opt out. I know it is.
     
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  15. Johannhest

    By:JohannhestJul 6, 2018
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    its not like he has a choice finland has total conscription for males
     
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  16. Doomy

    By:DoomyJul 6, 2018
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    I doubt it's ironcast.

    I'm sure there is a way to postpone/get out of conscription if you do something, like go to college.
     
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  17. Dj S Greysha

    By:Dj S GreyshaJul 6, 2018
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    bai bai domt forget never drop soap on showers while on army
     
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  18. Hawk

    By:HawkJul 6, 2018
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    You can work a year of civil services instead 6 months of army service, or send a letter saying you don't wish to because (insert reason here), but it mostly falls down to civil services. As far as I understand.
     
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  19. 60ep

    By:60epJul 6, 2018
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    I don't think it would be as miserable as you think. It's a new experience, getting to do something else than living normal life. I'm not considering it wasting time. And what do you mean wearing out my body? Is it a problem if I am forced to exercise and end up getting in a better physical condition?
    And even if I wouldn't like it, it's a duty everyone needs to do. The state has responsibilities regarding you, it would be selfish to think you wouldn't have any responsibilities regarding the state. Finland has conscription because it cannot fund a big enough professional army to defend all its huge land area. Therefore it's a lot more efficent and in the end beneficial to everyone to have conscription.

    I get your logic, but it's selfish. If everyone thought like you in 1939, this country would look like the same shithole that the former soviet countries are today. Good thing they fought for freedom and prosperity that their state offered them. And those who don't should be executed for treason.
    There isn't any way to avoid it. It doesn't matter if you study in a university or if you are a competetive athlete. Every single man has to do it. You can also instead have the civil service thing that Hawk mentioned, but it takes always 1 year. And you have to work in some shity public sector job getting the same pay that the conscripts get. So it would definetly be a waste of time. Every year there are some who ''totally decline'' both, and they go to prison for 6 months. Out of these options I'm sure you'd pick going to the army for 6 months Doomy.
     
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  20. Tehfebeb

    By:TehfebebJul 6, 2018
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    I think you are wrong on this Doomy. Conscibtion might be bad for the individual, but it is very beneficial to society, that it has alot of reservists to call up to defend the country in case of war. And it lowers the will of the enemy (in this case russia) to attack, since they know the standing army might be small, but the amount of reservists is high.

    As for the individual. I was an arrogant kid, and the army would sure have tought me the strength of hieracy, waking up early in the morning, and working hard. In peacetime like this, knowing military grade tactics and stuff, might be useless. But in 10 years this might be a very important ability as well for basic survival in Europe
     
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